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Neue Testversion 17.90b3

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Hallo,

es gibt wieder eine neue Testversion 17.90b3.


Mac OS X:
http://www.pl32.net/beta/plx1790b3.zip

Windows:
http://www.pl32.net/beta/pl1790b3.zip


Neues:
- Ebenenwerkzeug: Tiefenselektion sollte nun besser funktionieren
- Ebenenwerkzeug: Umschalten mit der Tastatur (Pfeile oder Tab) sollte nun
als erste Ebene wirklich die Ebene unter der Maus zurückliefern
- PDF-Import: Dateien, in denen in Strings Leerzeichen ein vorangestellten '\'
haben, werden nun auch gelesen.
- Ditherung 16-Bit/32-Bit nach 8-Bit: Dithermuster ist zufälliger
- "Hilfslinien einstellen" in "Hilfslinien" geändert
- Ebenendialog: Ebenen werden beim Selektieren nicht mehr sichtbar geschaltet
- Bildwerkzeuge: Zeigen bei unsichtbarer oder falscher Ebene Verbotscursor

diverse kleinere Verbesserungen und Fehlerbehebungen






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- Ebenendialog: Ebenen werden beim Selektieren nicht mehr sichtbar geschaltet
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Gerhard Huber wrote: - Ebenendialog: Ebenen werden beim Selektieren nicht mehr sichtbar geschaltet
- Bildwerkzeuge: Zeigen bei unsichtbarer oder falscher Ebene Verbotscursor
Das gefällt mir sehr gut!

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Hallo,

wenn ich innerhalb des Ebenen-Dialogs auf der Kanäle-Palette bin, und dann mittels rechtem Mausklick im Bearbeitungsfenster das Kontextmenü aufrufe und die Ebene wechsele, werden die Miniatur-Vorschaubilder in der Kanäle-Palette nicht aktualisiert. War das schon immer so ?
Es wird in der Kanäle-Palette immer das gezeigt, was auch im Bearbeitungsfenster sichtbar ist. Und das auch immer in Dokumentgröße. Sollte da nicht die aktuell angewählte Ebene sichtbar sein?
Hab ich ehrlich gesagt auch noch nie so richtig wahrgenommen, da ich die Kanäle sehr selten brauch. Wenn man auf "Einzelschritt" schaltet ist es ok. Dann ist natürlich nur die Miniatur der aktuellen Ebene in der Kanäle-Palette sichtbar.

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Re: Neue Testversion 17.90b3

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Hi all,

If you right click on the eye in the layers panel to see the label color list, this one is in German on PL in english version.
Another thing that is really confusing is that in the Guides panel the checkbox reads now "Guides changeable" and it should read only "lock" making the default checkbox unchecked and checked only if a guide is locked, is very rare the case where you lock a guide.

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ellhel wrote:wenn ich innerhalb des Ebenen-Dialogs auf der Kanäle-Palette bin, und dann mittels rechtem Mausklick im Bearbeitungsfenster das Kontextmenü aufrufe und die Ebene wechsele, werden die Miniatur-Vorschaubilder in der Kanäle-Palette nicht aktualisiert. War das schon immer so ?
Ja.
ellhel wrote:Es wird in der Kanäle-Palette immer das gezeigt, was auch im Bearbeitungsfenster sichtbar ist. Und das auch immer in Dokumentgröße. Sollte da nicht die aktuell angewählte Ebene sichtbar sein?
Auch in anderen Programmen werden hier die Kanäle des gesamten Dokuments angezeigt.

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Juan wrote:If you right click on the eye in the layers panel to see the label color list, this one is in German on PL in english version.
There is no color list in the Mac version, so I think this feature is not fully implemented yet.
Juan wrote:Another thing that is really confusing is that in the Guides panel the checkbox reads now "Guides changeable" and it should read only "lock" making the default checkbox unchecked and checked only if a guide is locked, is very rare the case where you lock a guide.
I don't think, that locking guides is a rare case, but "Locked" is definitely a more elegant term. We will change that.

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Martin Huber wrote:There is no color list in the Mac version, so I think this feature is not fully implemented yet.
I forgot to say that I´m on Win.


I have one question, what means this symbols when editing text?
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Juan wrote:
Martin Huber wrote:I have one question, what means this symbols when editing text?
Symbol.jpg
The plus-sign means, that the text is overflowing (too many text for the size of the layer).
The other sign allows creating shape flow (text flowing around other layers).

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Martin Huber wrote:The plus-sign means, that the text is overflowing (too many text for the size of the layer).
The other sign allows creating shape flow (text flowing around other layers).
Thanks for the clarification. :)

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Re: Neue Testversion 17.90b3

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Hi all,

Is there a reason to have the Distort perspective as default when you drag the corners of a layer?. For me the default behavior should be the Scale Layer and then if you keep Ctrl (on windows) it changes to distort perspective.

Another thing that I just "discovered" is that an amazing feature called Scale Special, is like a "crop" but only for that layer, the thing is that is way too hidden, is there a way to assign another kind of icon for this operation, right now it gives the same visual feedback than the normal layer scale.

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Juan wrote:Is there a reason to have the Distort perspective as default when you drag the corners of a layer?. For me the default behavior should be the Scale Layer and then if you keep Ctrl (on windows) it changes to distort perspective.
Maybe you have switched to mode "extended" in the tool settings?
Juan wrote:Another thing that I just "discovered" is that an amazing feature called Scale Special, is like a "crop" but only for that layer, the thing is that is way too hidden, is there a way to assign another kind of icon for this operation, right now it gives the same visual feedback than the normal layer scale.
If I remember correctly, it is only useful for text layers, and you have to drag outside of the markers in "extended mode" or with Ctrl in "standard mode"
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Auch in anderen Programmen werden hier die Kanäle des gesamten Dokuments angezeigt
Danke für die Info.

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Re: Neue Testversion 17.90b3

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Hoogo wrote:Maybe you have switched to mode "extended" in the tool settings?
Yes you were right I was on extended mode, but now... why it change the behavior between normal and extended mode? I thought that extended mode give you the option to resize a layer in a non destructive mode, nothing else. But I guess the cursor behavior shouldn´t change.
Maybe a real detailed explanation between normal and extended mode could clarify this kind of doubts. :)
Hoogo wrote:If I remember correctly, it is only useful for text layers, and you have to drag outside of the markers in "extended mode" or with Ctrl in "standard mode"
I use it to "crop" some layers with pictures and is amazing, but anyway I guess another kind of visual feedback could be better.

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Juan wrote:Yes you were right I was on extended mode, but now... why it change the behavior between normal and extended mode? I thought that extended mode give you the option to resize a layer in a non destructive mode, nothing else. But I guess the cursor behavior shouldn´t change.
Maybe a real detailed explanation between normal and extended mode could clarify this kind of doubts. :)
It seems that there is no real difference in functionality between the 2 modes anymore, just in usage. In old versions of PL there was not the possibility to change between normal and extended using Ctrl.
Juan wrote:I use it to "crop" some layers with pictures and is amazing, but anyway I guess another kind of visual feedback could be better.
What's that? Can you explain or show that a little?
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