Setting the grid to 1px actually works quite well. But that issue with the left and top pixels that lie outside the snapped rectangle rears its ugly head again... And working zoomed out still allows elements to be positioned fractionally, which means the pixel grid only works when we zoom in.bkh wrote:If you need alignment to pixel borders, why don't you use the grid with 1 px distance? Then both layers and grid lines snap to pixel borders (or to pixel centres, if you set the offset to 0.5 px. I don't think it's wise to mix the functionality of grid and pixel mode.Herbert123 wrote:Also strange: when the user switches to pixel mode (ctrl-1), the guides do not snap to pixels, and it is still possible to position a guide to a decimal number. Ideally the user would expect when he/she switches to pixel mode that the guides snap to pixels...
Btw., a grid can also be very helpful in quickly setting up guide lines with equal distances.
I only wish that grid settings would be part of a document (maybe added to the Guides dialogue), not a global setting.
I tried the grid object, but again several issues:
- elements do not snap to that grid. So we are forced to convert it to a vector object (split vector object);
- once converted, snapping still does not work unless all the lines of the grid are made available on the same layer stack level as the elements you wish to snap to that grid. We cannot group the lines together, because snapping stops functioning (or rather, elements will then snap to the group). This makes it almost impossible to work with for more complicated grids - having hundreds of objects in the root of the layer stack!
So it is again a very weak work-around, that does not solve the guides problem in Photoline.
To me, and any other designer that works on a daily basis with (print) layouts and web/app mockups, these ought to be added to Photoline:
- layer based guides to control different sets of guides and grids (these layers could be organized in a modernized guide manager, btw);
- a grid creator for guides that matches the needs of any layout designer (like GuideGuide and Grid Calculator);
- guides that behave like regular objects, and can be multiple selected and translated and controlled with the regular tools.
- an easy way to avoid fractionally positioned guides for web and app layout work.
- a much improved guide manager. Perhaps all this functionality can be combined in a modernized guide manager - I would not mind having "layers for guides" added to the guide manager. Actually makes more sense, I think, and is more usable than littering the guides throughout the layer stack. I guess that is why layout applications always use a page template system to take care of guides in a more organized manner.
Until these are implemented, (semi-)complex layout work, both for digital and print, is tough going in Photoline. And I speak from experience: I have been using Photoline for layout work in the past year, and it often proves to be a very frustrating experience due to the very basic guide implementation in Photoline. It really is very bare-bones indeed. A shame, because I do not think an improved guide system and manager would take too much development time.
Crossing my fingers. It would be a boon to every Photoline user. Just imagine as a photographer to be able to add a two-thirds grid, or a golden rectangle grid. Or a quick modular grid for easy thumbnail placement. Now extend those possibilities to all other users that need some form of simple or complex grid management -everyone wins. And Photoline becomes a much more viable product for layout work.