Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Juan wrote:And another wish is using the left and right arrows to control the softness of the brush.
Left/right currently rotate the brush. But Shift-up/Shift-down control the softness.

Btw., just noticed that the sliders and values in the non-modal brush editor don't reflect the changes (the brush preview in the panel does).

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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Martin Huber wrote:
Herbert123 wrote:The Tool Settings panel is scalable, correct? I cannot change the size of that panel, and tools/buttons are cut off.

Any idea why this is happening?
The Tool Settings are not resizable, they just adjust their width to the width of their panel stack.

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For a while now certain buttons and tools are cut off:
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Herbert123 wrote:For a while now certain buttons and tools are cut off:
I have no problems with the horizontal width -- if your buttons are being cut off on the right, you need to increase the width of the docking area.

The new options for fill, line colour and line style will require the height of the tool settings panel to be increased (programatically) for these tools:
  • Free style stars.
  • Flowers.
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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photoken wrote:
Herbert123 wrote:For a while now certain buttons and tools are cut off:
I have no problems with the horizontal width -- if your buttons are being cut off on the right, you need to increase the width of the docking area.

The new options for fill, line colour and line style will require the height of the tool settings panel to be increased (programatically) for these tools:
  • Free style stars.
  • Flowers.
That is the issue: I never dock either the tools or tool settings panels. The tools panel is flexible in width and height, but the tool settings panel is not.
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Herbert123 wrote: That is the issue: I never dock either the tools or tool settings panels. The tools panel is flexible in width and height, but the tool settings panel is not.
Now I see what you mean...interesting -- the settings panel changes its width to adapt to the width of the docking area, but not when used as an independent window.

I keep tellin' ya -- you've got to adopt the "Ken minimalist" layout style. :wink:
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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bkh wrote:
Juan wrote:And another wish is using the left and right arrows to control the softness of the brush.
Left/right currently rotate the brush. But Shift-up/Shift-down control the softness.

Btw., just noticed that the sliders and values in the non-modal brush editor don't reflect the changes (the brush preview in the panel does).

Cheers

Burkhard.
Awesome, thank you.
Sadly you can´t visualize the softness radius on the canvas, I hope this can be implemented.

Cheers,
Juan
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Vielen Dank, für die Möglichkeiten Voreinstellungen im Pinselwerkzeug abzuspeichern und Voreinstellungen wieder laden zu können. Dies erspart sehr viel Zeit. Toll wäre es, wenn das Abspeichern von Voreinstellungen auch für die anderen Malwerkzeuge mit vielen Einstellmöglichkeiten integriert werden könnten. Nochmals wirklich super!!
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Juan wrote:Would it be possible to have an option over the Tool settings in order to visualize the softness radius of a brush?
I will change that, so that soft brushes are showing the inner radius.

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bkh wrote:Btw., just noticed that the sliders and values in the non-modal brush editor don't reflect the changes (the brush preview in the panel does).
I will fix that.

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maxwell wrote:Vielen Dank, für die Möglichkeiten Voreinstellungen im Pinselwerkzeug abzuspeichern und Voreinstellungen wieder laden zu können. Dies erspart sehr viel Zeit. Toll wäre es, wenn das Abspeichern von Voreinstellungen auch für die anderen Malwerkzeuge mit vielen Einstellmöglichkeiten integriert werden könnten.
Wir werden nach und nach wahrscheinlich immer mehr Werkzeuge entsprechend umbauen. Aber da es sehr viele Werkzeuge gibt, kann das ein ganzes Weilchen dauern. Wenn du also irgendwelche Favoriten hast, kannst du die gerne nennen.

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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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One thing I really miss during vector editing is the option to be able to scale, transform, and rotate a group of selected vector points. This is possible in InkScape, Photoshop, etc., and is extremely handy in many situations:
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Hallo Martin,

Toll, wenn es zukünftig möglich wird, Werkzeugeinstellungen abzuspeichern und bei Bedarf zu laden. Neben dem Pinsel ist vor allem der Kopierpinsel eines der Werkzeuge, bei dem abgespeicherte Voreinstellungen das Arbeiten beschleunigen wird. Wäre es prinzipiell möglich auch die genutzte Pinselspitze (Einstellungen unter Pinsel, Pinseleditor) mit abzuspeichern? Falls nicht, muss man halt die Pinselspitze und die zugehörigen Werkzeugeinstellungen des genutzten Werkzeuges getrennt mit einem Namensbezug abspeichern.

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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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SVG import bug: Freestyle rendered SVG files load up empty in Photoline.

Examples:
https://www.blender.org/manual/_images/ ... pallet.svg

Also, SVG supports animation. It would be great if Photoline could open these files, and (just like gif animations) open each frame as a layer. And saving of an animated SVG ought to be similarly supported, just like animated gifs.
https://www.blender.org/manual/_images/ ... g_cube.svg
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Herbert123 wrote: Freestyle rendered SVG files load up empty in Photoline.

Examples:
https://www.blender.org/manual/_images/ ... pallet.svg
Using the W3C Validation service reveals that Inkscape-created image has 86 errors and 3 warnings:
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It's unrealistic and very counter-productive to keep requesting that PL support SVG images created by Inkscape, since Inkscape is forced to use non-standard markup in order to provide some semblance of vector drawing capability.
Herbert123 wrote:It would be great if
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No.

Enough, already, with constantly asking for more and more "support" for the little-used SVG format. Even Inkscape has been forced to acknowlege reality by implementing opening and saving PDF files.

PL can open and save standard SVG images, and that's enough.
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.40b12

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Correct, I failed to check that file whether it validates or not: after importing in InkScape, and re-saving as a "plain" svg, it imports fine into Photoline (this re-builds the SVG file, and it validates). This is an issue with Freestyle, not with Photoline. I will file a bug with their devs. Apologies!

As for SVG being "little used" - it is used A LOT on the web and for mobile design nowadays - good SVG import and export is essential for anyone working in those areas! Flash for web vector graphics is just no longer an option, and SVG is experiencing a renaissance of sorts. Besides, it is an open format, and is used to exchange data between applications as well (that is how I often share vector graphics between several applications).

The animation support would be nice to have, and since GIF animation is supported, I thought I'd ask. It would be great to have in the future, though.
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