Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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Re: Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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Basic vector shapes GUI improvement request:

Currently the parameters of the vector shape tools can only be accessed when
1) the user selects the shape
2) switches to the exact tool that was used to create said shape (star, rounded box, etc.)
3) changes the parameters in the tool properties.

That is a lot of steps compared to many other applications. Nowadays other design applications offer on-screen widget controls as well. It would be great if these could be added to Photoline's shapes. Photoline already has the most excellent gradient and pattern fill widget controls in the latest betas (better than the competition!), and the shapes feel a bit left behind compared.

Also, it would be nice to have additional shapes such as a donut (extend the circle tool?), cog wheel, a text balloon, and optional individual corner controls for the rounded box.

And perhaps offer an option to to use rounded corners even when the rectangle tool was used - otherwise the user is forced to repeat the action with the rounded box tool. In my opinion the box and rounded box could be combined into one tool.

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Re: Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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Herbert123 wrote:
I foresee beginning Photoline users encountering this same issue - removing the hairline colour automatically would simplify the process.
In general, I don't like the idea of a program automatically changing properties of an object from what I specified.

And how would that accommodate the case where the user decides, after applying the Outer Emboss, that he wants to see the outline in the original colour?

I think that if PL does or does not automatically remove the hairline colour there will be new user confusion. Just a note in the help explaining the Outer Emboss effect when a hairline is used should be sufficient.
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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Herbert123 wrote:
That is a lot of steps compared to many other applications. Nowadays other design applications offer on-screen widget controls as well. It would be great if these could be added to Photoline's shapes. Photoline already has the most excellent gradient and pattern fill widget controls in the latest betas (better than the competition!), and the shapes feel a bit left behind compared.
It's only one extra step, since other programs also have a settings box where the parameters for an object can be specified.

I think that adding widgets to shapes would needlessly complicate the editing window and get in the way of using basic vector editing tools on the shapes.

The more properties that an object has, the less useful a widget becomes. For example, the most complicated sets of parameters are for text objects, where it's necessary to have the various settings in a tool settings panel. For the fills, it's very appropriate to use widgets because the options are simple and drawing the fills directly in the editing window is very necessary for their use.
Herbert123 wrote: Also, it would be nice to have additional shapes such as a donut (extend the circle tool?), cog wheel, a text balloon, and optional individual corner controls for the rounded box.
Donut tool -- no. There can never be a size (and positioning) for the inner circle that would satisfy users. It's better to let the user create an inner circle of his choosing and combine it with the larger circle to create his own custom donut shape.

Cog Wheel? I can see the value of a "gear" tool (as a solid shape for the same reasons stated above about donuts). The tool options would have to include width and roundness for both the peaks and valleys, as well as a roundness value for the sides.

Text balloons? There are so many potential styles that could be required that it's probably best to accommodate pre-built text balloons in either the Shapes or Outlines list.

Individual corner radii for the rounded rectangle tool is very low on my priorities list. While I agree it would be convenient, the individual corner radii can now be controlled using the Vector Points tool; and I suspect that very very few users use rounded rectangles with individually set corner radii.
Herbert123 wrote:In my opinion the box and rounded box could be combined into one tool.
I think so, too. The tool settings panel for the Rectangle Tool looks to have plenty of space for the additional controls needed for rounded rectangles.
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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I just discovered the texture editor accepts a maximum width and height of 2048 pixels!!!

So happy now! Stupendously happy! That makes it far more useful for 3d texturing work - super!
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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Eurgail wrote:And PhotoLine crashes, when I click "From Image". :?
I don't get a problem here. Do you have more information?
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Re: Neue Testversion 19.90b6

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Entschuldigung, ich muss das zurücknehmen. Kann den Fehler nicht mehr reproduzieren. :oops: