Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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And another visual conflict. Same icon source but different size in different places. Impossible adjust to pixel perfect look. Those technical style arrows and other single line symbols look really bad when not aligned to pixel perfect 15/17/19 px grid.
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The Export button in the Web Export is coloured dark, and hardly noticeable. I noticed this issue today when my wife attempted to export a PNG, but she failed in doing so, because she could not locate the Export button, and decided to click on the Close button instead!
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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Problem 1:
Layers toolbar "Lock" icons use 13x13px size on macOS and 13x13px on Windows

Problem 2:
Same icon sources used in Layer tiny Icons indicators and transformed to 10x10px size:
200033 "Prevent from Selecting"
200032 "Lock Position"
100049 "Lock Transparency"
It is better to add separate icon sources for these tiny indicators.

Problem 3:
12374 "Style" icon used in Layers bottom toolbar in 15x15px size, and same icon source used in tiny Icons indicators 10x10px. Because source icons is 15x15 instead of 19x19, when resized it produce tiny 8x8px icon size and don't match to other icons.
It is better to add separate icon source for tiny "Style" indicator.

Problem 4:
10x10px icon size always produce blurry look. It is better to use 11x11size if possible.

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Icon sizes problems on Windows:
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Also it looks like something wrong with cursors appearance on Windows. On Windows cursors transparency look in different than on macOS. On macOS white outlines with 90% opacity looks rather bright, but on Windows same outline became way darker and produce artifacts.
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Here are few other places on macOS with aliased icons that use "incorrect" 14/16/18 pixel grid instead of original 15/17/19 px grid:
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There is a very useful option in "Document Attributes" to quickly change surrounding background color. But there are some conflicts with it:
Problem 1: It works only when "Hide Border Content" is turned OFF.
Problem 2: If "Hide Border Content" is turned OFF, "Document Attributes - Background Color" became blended and shaded with color selected in "Preferences -> Display -> Document"
Problem 3: If "Hide Border Content" is turned ON, to change background color i need go to Preferences -> Display -> Document, and select background color there. (not a quick option at all)

Request 1: Is it possible to use "Document Attributes - Background Color" when "Hide Border Content" is turned ON?
Request 2: Is it possible don't blend color selected in "Preferences -> Display -> Document" and color selected in "Document Attributes - Background Color" ?
Request 3: Is it possible just use color selected in "Preferences -> Display -> Document" as default color for "Document Attributes - Background Color"?
Request 4: Is it possible to add the same quick "Document Attributes - Background Color" option in "Picture Mode"?

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And here are also some combined subjective notices that still bothers me. Hope it may help with future development...

- Universal themmed look for panels, sliders, dropboxes, checkboxes and numbers fields for Windows and macOS.
- More modern and lightweight "open" little triangles for dropboxes.
- Uniform panels background without random shades and pure white fields.
- Lighter accent color for dropboxes, checkboxes, text input fields.
- No overlapping shadow between dual row snapped panels on macOS.
- Colored selection in Layer List when "Layer List with Keyboard Support" is disabled.
- I personally still can't understand why use light blue color tint for mini adjustment toolbars.
- ICC profile filed always visible in Layer Attributes with indicator "ICC profile - None"
- Hide bottom window statusbar in fullscreen mode.

Example UI sketch:
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Rectangle Lasso on Windows looks very nice. It is pixel perfect and have no additional solid line. Same time on macOS it is blurry, aliased and also use additional rectangle solid line which is aliased and blurry:
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Circle Lasso on Windows also look better than on macOS. It is all pixel perfect and its frame have no any blurry or aliased artifacts:
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In Windows version, frames around buttons groups looks bad and blurry. They contains of dual lines and rounded corners:
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Not sure if this element is a part of the OS or if it is generated by PhotoLine, but maybe use something close to native windows rectangle frames? Example:
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Some visual problems when zooming in-out with scroll:
Selection lasso line is pixel perfect but it have additional Selected layer controls line frame that always jumps inside-outside and sometimes disappears.
Selected layer controls line itself is always blurry and never pixel perfect.
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Color position marks currently also aliased and blurred. I guess they simply should follow Pixel Mode and should be snapped to Pixel Grid to avoid icon aliasing.
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PhotoLine seems does the same but it always splits line into two pixel instead of always use 1 pixel line.
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This looks really strange especially when Pixel Grid is enabled. Pixel Grid lines look pixel perfect, but Ruler lines are blurry and not pixel perfect.
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I can suggest to take a look at Cinema4D or any other CAD app. They somehow visually preserve single pixel line appearance and same time provide nice looking anti aliased lines. Example:
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Also in Windows if system font is larger - dropboxes became larger and overlap, but font inside dropboxes seems stays the same size:
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"Delete", "Add", "Edit" and "Duplicate" panel toolbar buttons are placed in random position in each panel. Isn't it better to use some unified placement logic for these buttons in all panels?
Also buttons in Guides panel use some sort of "framed" look compare to "borderless" buttons in all other panel toolbars. Add/Delete buttons use different icons there.
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"Edit" button in panel bars always looked useless for me in real life. Editing always done by double click or by click directly to the number field. I really can't imagine why someone will select something in panel, then move mouse and click to "Edit" button, then move mouse again and change number field. Maybe it make sense to remove that button from panel bars? Anyone ever used that "Edit" toolbar button? Maybe i miss the point of this special button?
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I would have to agree - never understood that edit button to edit field input. On Windows F2 also works, btw.

The button bar space could be more effectively used for other functionality.
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