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Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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Hallo,

es gibt wieder eine neue Testversion 22.90b11.

Windows:
https://www.pl32.com/beta/pl2290b11.zip

macOS:
https://www.pl32.com/beta/plx2290b11.zip

Neues:
  • neuer Dialog um Animationen anzuzeigen (Ansicht > Dialoge > Animate)
  • Diverse Fehlerbehebungen und kleinere Verbesserungen
New:
  • new dialog for "classic" animations (View > Dialogs > Animate)
  • Various bug fixes and minor improvements
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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Little arrow in document statusbar looks distorted and pixelated, but start to look normal when i mouse hover on it.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

UI Request/Idea: Curve points snapping in "Hue Editor" and "Curves" adjustment layer with holding "Alt" key.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

UI Request/Idea: In layers list mark somehow layer type for live vector objects, and keep use "Vector" type for "fixed" vector objects.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Live vector object became "fixed" vector object if i place mask inside it, and click "Invert Mask".
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

UI Request/Idea: Add adjustments filters icons to mini adjustment panel drop menus
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Changing outline thickness by mouse scroll in Line Style Editor feels like broken. It skips numbers and also instantly jumps to some huge numbers if is scroll backward.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

"Offset" value in Line Style Editor is impossible to change by mouse scroll or by up/down keys.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Curve interpolation is incorrect in "Hue Editor" tool. It males impossible to separate single color without affecting other colors
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Histogram is changing when i adjust Input Levels of separate channels. Problem exists only in "Show All Channels" mode
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Incorrect layers order and naming when use "Layer -> Management -> Save/Load Layer" for Image sequence
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Incorrect layers order when use "Browse -> Open as Layers" for Image sequence
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Bug in PNG animation export. If "Optimize Size" unchecked, image produce artifacts.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

If "Use Pixel Grid" snapping to pixels is activated, and image width have odd amount of pixels and image height even amount of pixels (For example rectangle 11x6 pixels), i can move raster image to the half of the pixel. If i turn ON Pixel Mode, i still can can move image handle frame by the half of the pixel, but raster image itself is visually snaps to the pixel grid.
Problem: half-pixel moved image look normal in preview, but it became blurred and aliased if merged with other layers or if do "Flatten Image".

Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Currently if i collapse "Layer" mini adjustment box, it became expanded again when i create new adjustment layer from bottom quick menu icon. It also became expanded when i create new document.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

"Vector Drawing" tool always ignore Fill color selected in tool settings:
Problem fixed in 22.90b11

Bug in Histogram preview in Document Mode when Layer to Document color management is enabled and when only one image layer exists.
Problem fixed in 22.90b11
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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Das Programm ist wirklich toll.

Ich denke der RAW Import könnte aber noch etwas optimiert werden (ich wiederhole mich hier, sorry)

Könnte man beim Öffnen eines RAW Bildes nicht wenigstens die 3 erzeugten Ebenen in eine Gruppe packen. Dann wären die Einstellungen gegen unbeabsichtigte Änderungen geschützt. Dafür müsste im Programm nichts neu gemacht werden und das wäre auch komplett rückwärts kompatibel.
(Man kann dies sogar über eine Aktion bereits jetzt selbst nachrüsten und diese Aktion in den Einstellungen für den RAW Import aktivieren)

Die Gruppe sollte allerdings gegen versehentliches Betreten, auch innerhalb von Aktionen, geschützt sein und ganz wichtig, vom Programm als Pixelebene betrachtet werden. Leider ist es nämlich so, dass, wenn die aktuelle Ebene eine Gruppe ist, z.b. das Gradationswerkzeug nicht direkt aufgerufen werden kann (es ist ausgegraut).
Man kann zwar direkt eine Gradations Arbeitsebene erstellen, diese wird dann aber innerhalb der RAW-Gruppe erstellt :?: . Dies erscheint mir falsch. Ohne besagte Gruppierung ist es noch schlimmer, dann wird eine Arbeitsebene innerhalb der Raw-Anpassungen erstellt. Nicht nur wird dann kein Histogramm angezeigt, es funktioniert auch nicht.

Ich fände es toll für die Nutzer, wenn bei einem Doppelklick auf diese RAW-Gruppe ein Dialog geöffnet würde, der die wichtigen Einstellungen zur Belichtung und Weissabgleich über ein paar Regler mit der bei RAW Programmen üblichen Belegung steuern lässt.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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shijan wrote: Wed 16 Jun 2021 10:34 In LUT tool, the edge of the combo box button is cropped on Windows version:
I will fix this.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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Just transfered copy/paste problem from beta9 discussion here. Here is how currently copy/paste works in summary:

- In Document Mode if copy/paste Layer from Larger sized document to Smaller sized one, Layer always transforms to smaller document size. And also attempt to adjust position coordinates based on original position in some rather complicated and confused way.

- In Image Mode if copy/paste Layer from Larger sized image to Smaller sized one, Layer always keep original size. And also attempt to adjust position coordinates based on original position in some rather complicated and confused way.

In addition to this we have Text Layer that behave in it's own two different ways:
- In Document Mode if copy/paste Text Layer from one document to another smaller sized document, Text Layer frame fully transforms to document size. Letters size unchanged.

- In Image Mode if copy/paste Text Layer from one Image to another smaller sized one, Text Layer frame transforms only to to document width. Letters size unchanged.

It really feels like too many random behavior. I guess to avoid these confusions and to protect from "lost" layer outside borders, this action could be simplified to 2 basic options that user could select in preferences somehow.
:arrow: If copy/paste Image/Vector/Text layer from Larger sized Document/Image to smaller sized one:

Option 1. Keep original size, ignore position and always snap to upper left corner.
(Only if source and destination image/Document size 100% match, layer can preserve original position coordinates during copy/paste.)

Option 2. Always fully transform to new size.
(For Text Layer it could be additional option: Transform text frame and keep letters size like in Normal mode, or full resize like in "Extended Mode")
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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Overall the concept to preserve layer position when copy/paste from one document to another looks nice. But it probably just needs some restrictions in some situations. When copy/paste from larger to smaller document/image preserve layer position seems only makes things worse.
So in short:
- Original layer position could be ignored and it could be simply snapped to upper right corner if during copy/paste layer size or position don't fit to new document borders.
- Auto resize during copy/paste needs some user control. Probably this could be a problematic because it could be related to proper copy/paste of adjustment layers masks which is also very important option.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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Copy/Paste problem probably could be easy fixed simply by additional extended commands in "Edit" menu. For example If default paste command will use current logic "paste, keep original size and keep original position if possible", so other menus may look something like this:

Paste and Align to Center
Paste and Align to Corner
Paste and Fit Size

Just provide the same universal default for Image/Vector/Text in Image Mode and in Document Mode. Same time if possible don't change Adjustment layers copy/paste logic and allow them always fit to document size as usual.

By the way, similar logic exists in many other apps. For example basic "Paste" menu command that paste to the center and "Paste in Place" command that preserves original position.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b11

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These copy/paste position options already provide some control for "paste" logic requested earlier, and probably could be extended with something like: "Resize during Paste in Document Mode" and "Resize during Paste in Picture Mode", but unfortunately there is a problem.
So, i used these settings:
Image
Image

"Centered" by mistake always use window center instead of actual document borders center. So when document is moved within window - layer never pasted to expected document borders center.
This doesn't depend of Picture mode or Document mode:
Image

:arrow: Also currently Insert Position "Centered " and "At Mouse Position" allow half pixel shift and ignore pixel grid when "Pixel Mode" and "Use Pixel Grid" is enabled.
Seems proper align and preserve pixel grid is a global problem that linked to many tools.
By the way, i checked few other image editing apps and some apps force use pixel grid and snap objects to closest pixels (Photoshop), but same apps align to pure vector center allow half pixel shift and destroy original pixel structure once image is flattened or exported to other format (Affinity).
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