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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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Layers color management logic was changed a little bit.
Currently If Document set to sRGB i can not force set same sRGB ICC profile to the Layer.
Same problem goes to Isolated Group. If Isolated Group set to sRGB i can not force set same sRGB ICC profile to the Layer inside Isolated Group.
At first it may look logical - why convert from sRGB to sRGB? Color management just goes passthrough...
But in reality this cause problems when you move Layers from/to Color Managed groups or change Document ICC profile. In some situation ICC profile just disappears from layer without any warning, and so later i need to set ICC profile to Layer again if i want to change things in different way. Too confused.

So my request/suggestion here if possible:
:arrow: 1. Always keep Layer ICC profile even if it is the same as Document or Isolated Group ICC profile.
:arrow: 2. Allow to force set the same ICC profile to Layer, Document and Isolated Group (Of course if it won't produce additional tech problems with color management)
:arrow: 3. Make ICC profile field in Layer Attributes always visible and if there is no ICC profile attached to Layer - mark it as "ICC Profile: None" (Same as in Document attributes) or "ICC Profile: Passthrough".
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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Hardness option is missing in Painting Matrix (and also in Tablet Options menu, which as i see just a quick UI for saved Painting Matrix presets).

Also i guess it may be logical to sort settings in Painting Matrix in same order as in Brush Editor.
Color and Intensity (Opacity) also seems belongs to same logical group, so they may be placed closer one to other:
Outer Radius (Brush Size)
Hardness
Roundness
Angle
Position
Color
Intensity (Opacity)
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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Currently in PhotoLine (in both normal and dynamic modes) text size always changes starting from upper edge of the frame. In some situations this is not too comfortable, because after changing text size layer needs additional position adjustment.
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In most other apps during text size changes it preserves bottom character line, and so layer don't needs additional position adjustment every time.
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Maybe is it possible to add toggle in text too settings to switch between text ruler modes?
These user options also may be helpful:
Use lower character edge
Use upper character edge
Use upper edge of the text frame
Use lower edge of the text frame
Use center of the text frame
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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And another one transferred from 22.90b15.
It is impossible to preview in realtime Brush size in Path Painting tool , Hardness and all other brush settings changes (Seems this is a global limitation and brush settings updates in same non-realtime way in any other places)
:arrow: Guess in that tool it makes sense to put all Brush Editor controls in main window near "Distance" slider:
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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And another one transferred from 22.90b15.
Crop Tool have no "Centered" toggle and there is no hotkey combination to turn "Centered" on. In other tools there is a "Centered" button, so it is not a big problem there. But Crop tool don't have these buttons in tool settings.
Suggestions:
Something like "Alt+Shift" new global hotkey to quickly enable "Centered" looks logical, but in PhotoLine "Alt" is reserved for Snapping. So maybe it make sense to add "Proportional", "Centered" and "Show Rotation Point" buttons to "Crop" tool settings?
Example sketch:
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Real life example how "Centered" toggle in Crop tool may be useful. Currently single click to "Inscribe" button allow to fit crop area to image borders and also set aspect ratio for Crop tool. (i know that "Inscribe" tool was designed mostly for images with transparent areas, but as you see it can help a lot with basic non-transparent images as well)
Next if image have some unwanted frame or borders it feels logical to adjust crop centered. But this simple centered adjustment is impossible yet in Crop tool. So endless adjustments and endless snapping to center with "Alt" key required to see if borders cropped enough.
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The remaining posts in 22.90b15 are all about Brushes, Layer Styles, Mesh Gradient and Light that are 8 bit only, even if used in 16 or 32 bit document or layer. That produce a lot of low quality banding problems. It also impossible to use these 8 bit only tools in Linear gamma.
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In Layer Styles Blending modes (as well as in Gradient tool and any other possible places) it may be useful to add realtime preview update when you hover cursor over Blending modes in menu. (Similar as currently Blending modes menu works in Layers list)
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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When i change Light Effects with slider - it works in realtime and image updates instantly. This is really great new improvement.
But when i change Light Effects with 3D red ball - it still works in non realtime and image updates only when i release 3D red ball.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b16

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After a long time of absence here, I downloaded the current beta. The main reason was my interest in AVIF format, if it is meanwhile supported.

I read about the advantages of very small files with very high quality in compare to other formats, even WebP. Currently, I am using this (and I am very grateful for the great and easy to deal Web export of PL!), accepting "blocking" to achieve small file sizes for web pages.

I admit that I do not have any experience with AVIF because I could not find (after a truly short search) a (Windows) tool for conversion. Are there any plans to support this format in the future?
Screencasts zu Photoline: http://www.buoa.de • Win 10x64 / PL64, immer und ausschließlich die aktuellste Beta-Version.