Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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Neue Testversion 23.40b1

Post by Gerhard Huber »

es gibt wieder eine neue Testversion 23.40b1.

Windows:
https://www.pl32.com/beta/pl2340b1.zip

macOS:
https://www.pl32.com/beta/plx2340b1.zip

Neues:
  • Entwicklungsstand der Release 23.00
  • Focus Stacking: Mit Fortschrittsanzeige
  • Focus Stacking: Ergebnis hat die Bittiefe der Quellbilder
  • Panorama: Ergebnis hat die Bittiefe der Quellbilder
  • JPEG XL, Windows, Export: funktioniert wieder
  • Auf vielfachen Wunsch, die Windowsversion wieder mit einer 32-Bit-Version
  • Diverse Fehlerbehebungen und kleinere Verbesserungen
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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Danke für die 32-Bit Version (WIN).
Ich habe einige Plugins, die unter 64 Bit nicht laufen.
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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Layers order in Match Colors filter menu arranged in opposite order to layers list
Problem fixed in 23.00

In Match Colors mini adjustment layer word "only" is partially cropped
Problem fixed in 23.00

In 23.00rc1 "Stitch" and "Focus Stacking" are available in menu, but icons are missed in Icon Bar Options
Problem fixed in 23.00

UI Request/Idea: Option to disable border line frame around document. There are situations when it is critical to see original mage on background without any additional pixel line border frame. Also if Pixel Mode is turned on, that pixel line border jumps and shifts during zooming and distract attention.
Problem fixed in 23.00

[Request] Auto hide bottom window status bar at Fullscreen mode
Problem fixed for macOS only in 23.00

Sliders handles in Color Editor panel are off centered and aliased
Problem fixed in 23.00

Layer Styles thumbnail effects preview looks too huge in size in Absolute Mode.
Problem fixed in 23.00

Variable Width pattern in Line Style Editor produce artifacts. It looks like some infinity jagged vector edges.
Problem fixed in 23.00

Some typing and translation mistakes in Color Editor and Lens Correction
Problem fixed in 23.00

Threshold, Density, Bias and Angle sliders don't works in most filters
Problem fixed in 23.00

Turn off 3D Body in Layer Attributes, Change color of vector layer, Turn on 3D Body in Layer Attributes. Problem: 3D Body now cropped inside vector source shape. When double click to 3D Body in Layer Attributes and open 3D Body settings - problem is gone.
Problem fixed in 23.4b1
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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Since V23 it is allowed to drag a vector layer (grading) onto an adjustment layer as a mask sublayer.

This is not allowed for an image layer.
Could you allow it ?

Example : Dodge & burn using a 50% gray image. Drag an oval grading onto it to create vignetting.

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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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PhilM, you can always add vector to an image as a clipping mask. Or what did you mean?

But the option you explained looks like a bug. It works in some strange way and don't follow to global logic of Clipping Masks.
Here is example:
Drag vector layer inside Adjustment Layer. Now it behave like inverted clipping mask, but shows normal eye icon instead of clipping mask icon and don't have Clipping Mask options in Layer Attributes.
If i convert it to clipping mask there, it simply disappears and don't works.
If i drag it outside Adjustment Layer and then drag back inside Adjustment Layer - it now works as normal Clipping Mask.
UPD. As Martin Huber explained to me - mask don't works because additional "Layer Mask" menu toggle was not automatically enabled. To be honest it is really hard to imagine real life situation when "Clip" is enabled but "Layer Mask" is disabled for purpose. Also there is a toggle "Invisible" which behave exact same as disabled "Layer Mask". Too many complex options for so simple tastks.
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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Here is another strange thing:
If i put Raster image inside Adjustment Layer - it replaces original mask of Adjustment Layer.
But If i put Vector object inside Adjustment Layer - it adds mask to original mask of Adjustment Layer.
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Overall i like the idea to drag Vector or Raster Layer inside Adjustment Layer to use it as Clipping Layer Mask. This saves time because bypasses right mouse click to eye icon and select "Clip".
This option just needs a small fix in logic.
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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So here is possible suggestion for dragged layer global logic (based on PhilM's request and on my tests):
:arrow: When you drag Image/Vector inside other image/Vector/Adjustment Layer - it automatically changes to "Clip" mode and became a "Layer Mask". Quick and easy to understand logic. And this also may slightly speedup workflow due less clicks required to create a Layer Mask.
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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PhilM wrote: Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:14 Since V23 it is allowed to drag a vector layer (grading) onto an adjustment layer as a mask sublayer.

This is not allowed for an image layer.
Could you allow it ?

Example : Dodge & burn using a 50% gray image. Drag an oval grading onto it to create vignetting.
So your starting point is an ordinary image layer filled with 50% gray and having a blend mode? And now you want to add a vector layer with a (partially transparent) gradient to that image layer to modify the effect of the blend mode?

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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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Martin Huber wrote: Mon 13 Dec 2021 11:07
PhilM wrote: Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:14 Since V23 it is allowed to drag a vector layer (grading) onto an adjustment layer as a mask sublayer.

This is not allowed for an image layer.
Could you allow it ?

Example : Dodge & burn using a 50% gray image. Drag an oval grading onto it to create vignetting.
So your starting point is an ordinary image layer filled with 50% gray and having a blend mode? And now you want to add a vector layer with a (partially transparent) gradient to that image layer to modify the effect of the blend mode?

Martin
Yes, exactly. The blend mode is "Overlay".
It will dodge or burn the underlying image/layers depending on the gray of the grading/vector is darker than 50% or lighter than 50%.
It could be useful also with text or any other kind of vector layer.
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Re: Neue Testversion 23.40b1

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PhilM wrote: Mon 13 Dec 2021 12:39
Martin Huber wrote: Mon 13 Dec 2021 11:07
PhilM wrote: Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:14 Since V23 it is allowed to drag a vector layer (grading) onto an adjustment layer as a mask sublayer.

This is not allowed for an image layer.
Could you allow it ?

Example : Dodge & burn using a 50% gray image. Drag an oval grading onto it to create vignetting.
So your starting point is an ordinary image layer filled with 50% gray and having a blend mode? And now you want to add a vector layer with a (partially transparent) gradient to that image layer to modify the effect of the blend mode?

Martin
Yes, exactly. The blend mode is "Overlay".
It will dodge or burn the underlying image/layers depending on the gray of the grading/vector is darker than 50% or lighter than 50%.
It could be useful also with text or any other kind of vector layer.
I did some more testing ...
There is no need to drag the vector layer as a sublayer of the 50% gray.
You can leave the two (or more) layers on top of each other, but both layers should use the "Overlay" blending to produce the intended Dodge & Burn.
Optionally, the two layers can be grouped for stack readability.

Text layer can be added the same way in the stack to produce dodged/burned text.

Unless someone sees another usage, forget the request. The layer stack is good as is.

Phil