Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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Mac OS UI. Request to use green window button as "Maximize Window" instead of "Fullscreen".
This is similar to many other professional apps that mostly require quick fit window to screen instead of switch to fullscreen mode. Currently in PhotoLine there are a lot of quick options to switch to Fullscreen mode (hotkey, custom toolbar icon, mouse click to green window button) but only one rather complicated option to maximize window (Alt+mouse click to green button) There is also option to double-click hand tool, but it problematic because it maximize window only to the right and bottom directions.

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By the way, "Browse" window already have "+" button instead of "fullscreen" by default, so i guess it is not a big problem to make document or image window behave in same way.
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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Request for better Tiling logic for multiple windows.
Current (Tile Vertical):
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Suggested (Tile Vertical):
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More tiling modes also may be very useful.
Something like this:
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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Exclude minimized (docked) windows from tiling.
Currently minimized (docked) windows produce empty space during tiling:
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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Currently there are two types of drop down lists in different places of UI. Sometimes this looks very strange. In some places we can see random drop down lists side by side together.
I can suggest to unify all drop down lists to same flat look. This will make UI look more consistent and lightweight and will provide better look in Dark mode.
Also those native macOS drop down lists look very ugly in dark mode. I guess native numbers fields and checkboxes also may be changed somehow to less aggressive and less contrast colors for dark UImode.
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Here are original vs suggested
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Another small visual bug. All Correction Wizard icons have random sizes.
To be honest i am not sure who use this tool at all :)
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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Some inconstancy in Brush Editor UI. One window use Text names for brush settings, another window use icons for same settings.
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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There is a confusion between naming of totally different tools with same name "Luminance"
These different tools also use same icon source "100050 IDP_BRIGHT"

"Luminance" slider in "Curves" adjustment layer behave like "Legacy Brightness" in Photoshop, or like "Offset" in Davinci Resolve:
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"Luminance" slider in "Exposure" adjustment layer seems based on lightness response in Lab (same as L* gamma curve), so probably it may be renamed to "Lightness":
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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:arrow: There is a small cosmetic confusion between menus:
Menu: Layout -> Document
Menu: Layout -> Page
Menu: Layer

"Rotate", "Trim", "Scale", "Change Size" lines in these menus are arranged in slightly different orders.
Is it possible to unify the order of these menu lines to something like this?
- Scale
- Change Size
- Rotate
- Trim (and other special options)
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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Is it possible to remove pure white fields from UI and unify everything to same uniform grey color? I understand that those fields are a part of native OS UI, but i guess it could be an option to set custom color for them.
Current vs Suggested example:
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Those white fields make UI very random and also they look too deep dark in Dark UI mode. Currently in dark mode UI looks like chessboard and not too friendly at all:
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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:arrow: Menu: Layout -> Page -> Copy Page(s)
This command feels like named incorrectly because in reality it Duplicates pages, but not copy them like normal "copy" command. So i guess it may be renamed to "Duplicate Page(s)"
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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These tiny icons are very blurry and hard to read. Also they use same icon sources as large icons in other places, so it is impossible to fine tune them to pixel perfect size. It would be great if you add separate icon source for them and adjust frame size in UI to more pixel perfect look.
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for Photoline UI

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shijan wrote: Wed 05 Aug 2020 19:09 Is it possible to remove pure white fields from UI and unify everything to same uniform grey color? I understand that those fields are a part of native OS UI, but i guess it could be an option to set custom color for them. Those white fields make UI very random and also they look too deep dark in Dark UI mode.
Current vs Suggested example:
Image -> Image
Totally agree. +1
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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Tooltip during transformations in PhotoLine provides huge amount of info, but in many cases it feels so bulky and not too intuitive to read.
Maybe add an option to customize tooltip menu? So user can turn on and off info lines depending of workflow requirements.
Example of basic clean info tooltips from other app:
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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Icon sizes in Presets and Levels are special. They use "10002 Einstellungen" and two it's virtual copies "38298 IDS_PRESET" and "18788" and scale all 19x19 vector icon area to 16x16 px size. Seems it was chosen to align it with UI buttons elements. I keep "10002 Einstellungen" at 19 px size for best visual appearance.
A lot of inconsistency in Levels Adjustment compact window. Random places use different align logic. Hope it could be fixed in future with UI code and all elements, icons and buttons will fit and align to native 13/15/17/19 px grid.

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I looked further into adjustment windows elements, and seems they all use UI elements height equal to 16 px. So i guess we have to live with it :shock:
:arrow: As a more real life solution for this problem i can suggest don't mix gear (and other) icon sources:

1. Use "10002 Einstellungen" source ONLY for 13/15/19 icons (for menu and global icons toolbar).

2. Use separate Einstellungen icon source or virtual copy for 16 px (for Adjustment Layer Windows, Presets, Curves, Levels, Levels Auto corerction (similar as "38298 IDS_PRESET" and "18788")

3. Use separate Einstellungen icon source source or virtual copy for Tiny Adjustment Layers toolbar (similar as 200074, 200073, 200071 IDP_COLORPICK_TITLE)
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Re: Large List of Suggestions and Requests for PhotoLine UI

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1. There are two types of "Gear" icon in PhotoLine that could be unified to one single icon.
2. There are a lot of confusions with "Gear" icon sizes in different parts of PhotoLine tools and windows:

"200052 IDP_FUNCTION" used in bottom toolbar "Layer List" panel. Require transparent background layer to preserve correct size. Uses 15/17/19 grid. No problem here.

"38298 IDS_PRESET" used in "Presets" (including presets in Adjustment Layer mini toolbar).
Problem: "Presets" windows use 14/16/18 grid and don't preserves pixel perfect look from icon source with 15/17/19 grid.

"18788" Used in Browse -> Browse Settings menu. Uses 15/17/19 grid. Seems no problem here.

"10002 Einstellungen" used in "PhotoLine -> Preferences" menu icon. Also used in Levels Auto Correction window icon.
Problem: In Levels Auto Correction it uses 14/16/18 grid and don't preserves pixel perfect look from icon source with 15/17/19 grid. Icon looks too small in Levels Auto Correction and impossible to adjust separately because same icon source used in other places.

"Function" used in Seems it is not used directly but it is only a source for virtual copies 200052 IDP_FUNCTION and 20032 IDS_LAYERMOVETOOL_EXTENDED

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