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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
I am not against better Timeline, but i rather vote for spending dveloper's time to something like requested earlier Mean/Median Stacking tool, or Cloner tool, or more user friendly RAW tools, or improved Styles tool, but not for advanced Animation tool.
Proper timeline with easy to use keyframes is like a separate complicated app. It could take a lot of time to understand what workflows animators really use and need. In most cases those who need serious animation will do it in video editing apps or in 2D animation apps...
Proper timeline with easy to use keyframes is like a separate complicated app. It could take a lot of time to understand what workflows animators really use and need. In most cases those who need serious animation will do it in video editing apps or in 2D animation apps...
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
That's the reason for the order.shijan wrote: ↑Thu 01 Jul 2021 20:08 Maybe somehow bring file types list in "Options" and "Save", "Save As", "Export" and Browser menus to the same order (alphabetical with PLD on top.) for more user friendly navigation? Maybe use grouping and separation by raster/vector/video/icons-sursors logical types?
It's sorted in document, raster, vector, video in some places (open, save) and mixed in options.
I don't know what's the best way to sort it.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
No-one here expects an advanced animation tool - there are already plenty of advanced animation tools out there, both free and commercial.shijan wrote: ↑Fri 02 Jul 2021 02:20 I am not against better Timeline, but i rather vote for spending dveloper's time to something like requested earlier Mean/Median Stacking tool, or Cloner tool, or more user friendly RAW tools, or improved Styles tool, but not for advanced Animation tool.
Proper timeline with easy to use keyframes is like a separate app. It could take a lot of time to understand what workflows animators really use and need. In most cases those who need serious animation will do it in video editing apps or in 2D animation apps...
A simple frame-by-frame timeline is all that is needed - much simpler than the current Dynamic Animation timeline.
Since the animation tools are getting overhauled, now is the time to implement it, in my opinion.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
Maybe use menu separators to define file type groups in more obvious way? Example:Gerhard Huber wrote: ↑Fri 02 Jul 2021 08:04That's the reason for the order.shijan wrote: ↑Thu 01 Jul 2021 20:08 Maybe somehow bring file types list in "Options" and "Save", "Save As", "Export" and Browser menus to the same order (alphabetical with PLD on top.) for more user friendly navigation? Maybe use grouping and separation by raster/vector/video/icons-sursors logical types?
It's sorted in document, raster, vector, video in some places (open, save) and mixed in options.
I don't know what's the best way to sort it.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
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That's strange. I will check that.shijan wrote: ↑Thu 01 Jul 2021 18:26 I wrote about some specific situation with Remove Brush tool earlier here viewtopic.php?p=47735#p47735, but with newer Shift-click option it became even more interesting. I am not sure if it is a bug or simply some sort of expected in PhotoLine that i can't understand. So here is the situation:
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
Probably this was asked for decades, but here is one more attempt
Is it possible to add "Invert" Adjustment filter? Formally this missing filter looks like bug in UI, because there is a destructive "Invert" filter in "Tool->Color" menu, but same time there is no non-destructive "Invert" Adjustment layer filter.

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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
Use the curves adjustment layer --> Invert preset.shijan wrote: ↑Fri 02 Jul 2021 19:30 Probably this was asked for decades, but here is one more attemptIs it possible to add "Invert" Adjustment filter? Formally this missing filter looks like bug in UI, because there is a destructive "Invert" filter in "Tool->Color" menu, but same time there is no non-destructive "Invert" Adjustment layer filter.
It is indeed a bit odd that such a basic adjustment is not listed as a separate adjustment layer. But on the other hand it would clutter the adjustment menu with one more entry.
From the user perspective I'd also expect it to see it in the list. However that list is becoming quite long in the layer panel. It may be time to split that one adjustment layer button into three: adjustments, filters, and "other".
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
Yes, i use Curves. But instead of Invert with single click, i need to open Curves, click invert button in Curves, and then rename "Curves" layer to "Invert" to not confuse it with other Curves adjustment layers. Same layer thumbnail icon for "Curves" and "Invert" also makes it hard to locale visually. It shows inverted curve preview, but it is still not the same as normal well recognized icon. Not convenient...
I can record this to Actions, but this also require switching to actions panel, select action, click play, and switching back to working panel. It just feels like too many bothering for such a basic and essential tool that is missing for unknown reason.
As for too long Adjustments menu - i don't think that 1 additional item will make any difference.
Also here is idea - what if add user option in preferences to show/hide Adjustment filters in quick menus? Sort of list with checkboxes to show/hide menu items.
I can record this to Actions, but this also require switching to actions panel, select action, click play, and switching back to working panel. It just feels like too many bothering for such a basic and essential tool that is missing for unknown reason.
As for too long Adjustments menu - i don't think that 1 additional item will make any difference.

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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
Currently "Vector Object" tool quick list always resets to the first tab. I guess it should use tab that belongs to already selected clipart image. (Same logic as with colors/gradient quick list. If Color was selected - it show Color tab. If Gradient was selected - it show Gradient tab.)


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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
There are some tools that temporary block image zoom in-out during tool settings floating window is opened. Is it a bug or some special limitation for purpose?
Zoom with mouse scroll wheel and with keyboard shortcuts is locked in:
Line Style Editor
File -> Print Options
File -> Functions -> Batch Convert
File -> Functions -> Slide Show
Layout -> Print Markers
Layout - > Document Information
Layout - > Create Print Document
Layout - > Create Multipage Document
Layout -> Text -> Edit Text Shortcuts
Layout -> Document -> Scale Document
Layout -> Page -> Scale Page
Layer -> New Layer
Layer -> Convert Layer Type
Layer -> Scale Layer
Tool -> Mask -> Border Mask
Tool -> Mask -> Expand Mask
Tool -> Mask -> Contract Mask
Tool -> Color -> Count Colors
Filter -> when use external plugins
Filter -> Other -> Move Layer Content
Filter -> Morph
Web -> Tile Image
Web -> Image Map -> Assign Command
Zoom with mouse scroll wheel is locked but zoom with keyboard shortcuts works:
Layout -> Text to Picture
Layout -> Text -> Text on Path
Layout -> Text -> Text in Path
Tool -> Color -> Set Color Profile
Tool -> Color -> Convert with Set Color Profile
Tool -> Color -> Reduce colors
Filter -> Other -> Deinterlace
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Rectify
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Undistort Lens
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Stitch
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Focus Stacking
Effects -> Frame
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Lighting
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Lights
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Projection
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Tear paper
Effects -> Special Tools -> Picture on Picture
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Vault
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Waves
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Make Circular
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Distort With Arrows
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Distort Wavy
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Morph
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Page Curl
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Bend Image
Effects -> Distort (all distort tools)
Effects -> 3D body
Zoom with mouse scroll wheel works but keyboard shortcuts are locked:
Layout - > Barcode
Zoom with mouse scroll wheel and with keyboard shortcuts is locked in:
Line Style Editor
File -> Print Options
File -> Functions -> Batch Convert
File -> Functions -> Slide Show
Layout -> Print Markers
Layout - > Document Information
Layout - > Create Print Document
Layout - > Create Multipage Document
Layout -> Text -> Edit Text Shortcuts
Layout -> Document -> Scale Document
Layout -> Page -> Scale Page
Layer -> New Layer
Layer -> Convert Layer Type
Layer -> Scale Layer
Tool -> Mask -> Border Mask
Tool -> Mask -> Expand Mask
Tool -> Mask -> Contract Mask
Tool -> Color -> Count Colors
Filter -> when use external plugins
Filter -> Other -> Move Layer Content
Filter -> Morph
Web -> Tile Image
Web -> Image Map -> Assign Command
Zoom with mouse scroll wheel is locked but zoom with keyboard shortcuts works:
Layout -> Text to Picture
Layout -> Text -> Text on Path
Layout -> Text -> Text in Path
Tool -> Color -> Set Color Profile
Tool -> Color -> Convert with Set Color Profile
Tool -> Color -> Reduce colors
Filter -> Other -> Deinterlace
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Rectify
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Undistort Lens
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Stitch
Filter -> Digital Camera -> Focus Stacking
Effects -> Frame
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Lighting
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Lights
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Projection
Effects -> Effect Filters -> Tear paper
Effects -> Special Tools -> Picture on Picture
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Vault
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Waves
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Make Circular
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Distort With Arrows
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Distort Wavy
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Morph
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Page Curl
Effects -> Shape Tools -> Bend Image
Effects -> Distort (all distort tools)
Effects -> 3D body
Zoom with mouse scroll wheel works but keyboard shortcuts are locked:
Layout - > Barcode
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
Only during playing the animation or with single step, too?
Currently I can't say for sure whether a document preview will interfere with normal editing of the document content.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b12
I don't understand that. You can still do everything that the old Animate Layers offered.Herbert123 wrote: ↑Thu 01 Jul 2021 23:10I agree, I am already missing the old animate layers option.
Playing the animation in the document window would be possible, but still frames aren't, because this way you would no longer be able to edit the document contents.Herbert123 wrote: ↑Thu 01 Jul 2021 23:10This also has to do with the "Dynamic Animation" option: that window also only previews a local version. It feels very, very fragmented, and any other image editor that allows for animation and any other animation application plays the animations directly in the main view.
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