Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Hallo,

es gibt wieder eine neue Testversion 22.90b4.

Windows:
http://www.pl32.com/beta/pl2290b4.zip

macOS:
http://www.pl32.com/beta/plx2290b4.zip

Neues:
  • Panoramafunktion jetzt fertig für Betatest
  • Focus Stacking jetzt fertig für Betatest
  • Textebenen können wieder auf "dynamisch" zurückgeschaltet werden, in den Werkzeugeinstellungen, letzter Reiter
  • Diverse Fehlerbehebungen und kleinere Verbesserungen
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Die Position der Bildübersicht ist jetzt stabil, danke.

Gibt's für die beiden neuen ß-Funktionen die Andeutung einer Anleitung?
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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gmhofmann wrote: Wed 03 Feb 2021 12:28 Gibt's für die beiden neuen ß-Funktionen die Andeutung einer Anleitung?
Im Moment nicht. Das Focus Stacking hat einige Parameter, die nicht selbst erklärend sind, die werden aber zur Release vermutlich noch verschwinden.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Panorama funktioniert jetzt bei mir. Probleme an den Übergängen habe ich noch nicht festgestellt.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Some nice bugfixes here!
Little icons in the lower right corner on text frame problem. In pixel mode if text size is small and document is zoomed-in, those icons became pixelated and distorted.
Problem fixed in 22.90b4

On macOS "Show Pixel Grid" always enabled by default for new documents and images, even if it was turned off earlier.
Problem fixed in 22.90b4

Stitch - if i use images that different in pixel size, filter report an error message and the only way to back things to normal is completely close PhotoLine and start it again.
Problem fixed in 22.90b4, no more global hang if something goes wrong in Stitch.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Findings on Win 10 / Core i7 / 16Meg RAM

Stitching

Stitching 12 images 16Mpix (architecture) : Create sum layer
Takes approx 2min. But memory usage tops at 99% and data disk activity at 100%
The resulting image looks OK. But the horizontal features of the cathedral are bent/not rectilinear.

With the same images, Create layers > 12 aligned layers
Similar load
The resulting images are very badly aligned / unusable

An attempt to stitch the 12 aligned layers together chokes the PC forever. Mouse is frozen.
The first try, I had to shut down the PC.
The second try, I had to kill PL process after 10min.

Focus stacking

Attempt to stack 7 images 16Mpix (flower) failed after a few seconds : "Failed to match between image 0 and 3".


General comments :

1. I would like to be able to use the align algorithm to align a layers stack as a stand alone solution for further manual processing.

2. I would like to see an additional solution to reduce noise by stacking multiple shots of the same scene and apply "Median" on each pixel.
Median tends to reject stray pixels.

3. Would be nice to have an "Advanced" button to access the parameters of the HDR/Stitching/Stacking algorithm.

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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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But the horizontal features of the cathedral are bent/not rectilinear.
If the field of view (FoV) is larger than ~ 100° this is normal. You should install http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ (OpenSource) and create a panorama — the result would be identical. Hugin is the most precise panorama tool which gives you the most advanced features i.e. including manually setting control points. In addition, it offers a large variety of projection models.

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Failed to match between image 0 and 3
I could imagine that the deviation between image 0 and 3 have been too large.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Wird aus Bildern ein Panoramabild generiert, ist dies bei allen Versuchen ok. Werden die Ebenen ausgegeben, so sind diese nicht optimal ausgerichtet. Wird aus den "ausgerichteten" Ebenen wieder ein Panorama erzeugt, so stimmt dieses nicht mit dem direkt erzeugten Panorama überein.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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der_fotograf wrote: Thu 04 Feb 2021 18:58 Hugin is the most precise panorama tool which gives you the most advanced features
That is why I usually stitch using Hugin.
I could imagine that the deviation between image 0 and 3 have been too large.
The test images were assembled without problem onboard my Olympus camera.
They also get assembled using enfuse.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Stitch still looks very strange sometimes. It always attempt to fix lens curvature even if there is no lens curvature.
Seems it needs some "Flat/Planar" mode and and "Lens Correction" mode. Seems similar separation used in many other apps.
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Here is example when attempt to stitch of two simple screenshots:

Result in PhotoLine:
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Result in other apps:
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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I guess there is a mistake in color management logic between Adjustment Layers and Color Picker.

Here is how to reproduce:
- Switch image to Document mode.
- Set Document ICC profile to something like sRGB.
- Set Image ICC profile to sRGB with Linear Gamma.
- Add White Point Adjustment Layer (Setup Grey Point mode)

If White Point Adjustment Layer placed on top of image, it works in Document ICC profile as expected and pick colors based on Document ICC profile as expected.

:arrow: PROBLEM: If White Point Adjustment Layer placed inside image, it works in Image ICC profile as expected, but incorrectly pick color values based on Document ICC profile.
I see the same problem in Channel Mixer tool, so i guess same problem may exist with all other tools that use Color Picker.

P.S. The good news is that there is no problem if i create additional color managed Isolated Group with Linear ICC profile and put White Point Adjustment Layer inside that group. In this scenario it works in Group ICC profile as expected and pick colors based on Group ICC profile as expected.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Hi,
could it be possible to add presets to the Context Blur?
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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Paul wrote: Thu 11 Feb 2021 15:12 Hi,
could it be possible to add presets to the Context Blur?
- Paul
Nice notice! But it is not only about Context Blur. A lot of other filters also don't have presets. I wonder why?
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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"Standard Filters" don't have presets because in 99.9999% of the usage you have to change one value only.
So you won't need presets.
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Re: Neue Testversion 22.90b4

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I agree that presets for many filters are not too important, but soon or late sometimes presets may help... Anyway, probably it is not a huge problem because it is possible to save global presets for any Adjustment Layer(s) as global preset in Adjustments mini window. But it is not possible for legacy non adjustment filters.
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