A document color is a color of the document color list. Similar to text styles the document color list is attached to a document. Changing a document color will change all places in the document that use this color.Hoogo wrote:Seems I really missed something hereHerbert123 wrote:Add a document colour, and check "Spot". Then create a vector layer, and apply the colour.
What is a document color?
You can assign a spot color to a grayscale image, if the document (attributes, document mode) has a CMYK profile. The grayscale layer should then have a color option to which you have to assign the spot color (don't forget transparency). Please check by overprint the fill option. The grayscale image corresponds to the channel mask in PS. Assigning one black spot color to the first grayscale image, copy the grayscale image and assign a second spot color to the second grayscale image. What you get is an image in duplex mode.Herbert123 wrote:As for spot channels: currently we can add a vector layer and define a spot colour for that layer. But as far as I am aware, there is no option to create a bitmap based layer that serves as such?
And we cannot create a hexachrome, or a duotone, or tritone. Or a 8 colour dark/light print. At least, I do not think we can? It is one last reason why I sometimes have to resort to Photoshop.
unter Ansicht -> Listen. Kanalarbeiten führt man unter PL am Besten mit Ebenen durch. Im Buch von Katrin Eismann werden viele Kanalarbeiten auch bei PS mit Ebenen durchgeführt. Unter PS sind viele Dinge aus Uralt-Versionen erhalten geblieben wie z.B. Kanal- und Bildberechnungen, die genau so gut mit Ebenen deurchgeführt werden können. Dessen ist man sich auch bei Adobe bewusst, wie Interviews mit den Entwicklern belegen. Für mich macht deswegen ein zusätzlicher Optionendialog im Kanäle-Dialog nicht viel Sinn.ellhel wrote:Hallo,
ich frag jetzt mal ganz dumm: Wo finde ich die "Dokument-Farbliste".
tja....da hab ich nicht nachgeschaut (warum auch immer)...........unter Ansicht -> Listen.
View-->Lists-->Document Color ListHoogo wrote:Seems I really missed something hereHerbert123 wrote:Add a document colour, and check "Spot". Then create a vector layer, and apply the colour.
What is a document color?
The problem with that method is that the flares are multi-coloured, even within the same flare, which requires different amounts of darkening to each channel. Darkening all RGB channels at the same time leaves the unwanted flare colour -- that unwanted flare colour is just darker. By applying the Darker tool to individual channels, the unwanted colour can be corrected.Hoogo wrote:I would not do that directly to the graphics.photoken wrote:While working on Experiment 03 (Removing Lens Flares) it occurred to me that having the same Channels options for the Brighter and Darker tools as in the Painting tool would be very helpful. By selectively darkening areas of flare in the individual channels, correcting lens flares should become much easier.
I would add a medium gray layer and set its layer mode to overlay.
Then you can paint with black, white, any tool and filter without destroying the original picture. It will take some attempts until you have a final version.
Ich erinnere mich, hab ich damals schon bei der Einführung ewig gesucht. Hat aber glaub ich nichts mit CMYK zu tun, klappt bei mir auch einfach so.maxwell wrote:You can assign a spot color to a grayscale image, if the document (attributes, document mode) has a CMYK profile. The grayscale layer should then have a color option to which you have to assign the spot color (don't forget transparency)...
Das fand ich wirklich schwer zu finden... "Dokument" erscheint ja bereits als Reiter in den normalen Farbfeldern, aber es war leer und von dort aus nicht zu füllen. Ich finde, die Buttons Plus und Minus gehören dort auch hinein.maxwell wrote:unter Ansicht -> Listen.
That's a totally new topic to me, so I should better shut up here... but I can'tHerbert123 wrote:The name "Document Color" in English is a bit unfortunate: generally they are known as "swatches" in design applications. Changing the name to "Swatch" would also be less confusing when both the "Documents" and "Document" ("Document Color" is shortened to "Document") panels are open. And users accustomed to "industry standard" applications would be less confused as well.
Swatch was building watches in the 80's. I'm fine with the name "document color", but if "swatch" is kind of standard, then I better get used to it right from the start.
Can you explain? I was in the swatch list, added a new color, a tint, and derived it from another swatch color. It worked, but changing the other swatch colordid not change the one with added tint. I wonder if "harmony" could work like that, too?Herbert123 wrote:PL, like other applications, also allows for tints based on a swatch colour.
It's not exclusive. You could work in channels on the gray layer, too (if it is RGB...).photoken wrote:The problem with that method is that the flares are multi-coloured, even within the same flare, which requires different amounts of darkening to each channel. Darkening all RGB channels at the same time leaves the unwanted flare colour -- that unwanted flare colour is just darker. By applying the Darker tool to individual channels, the unwanted colour can be corrected.Hoogo wrote:I would not do that directly to the graphics.
I would add a medium gray layer and set its layer mode to overlay.
Then you can paint with black, white, any tool and filter without destroying the original picture. It will take some attempts until you have a final version.
In this case, I don't mind altering the original picture -- I'm working on a copy of the picture, anyway.
It still does not work too well for removing flares because painting does just that -- it applies the black or white colour uniformly over the underlying image. The Brighter and Darker tools work differently, and it's that difference in functionality that I'd like to be able to use directly on the individual channels.Hoogo wrote:It's not exclusive. You could work in channels on the gray layer, too (if it is RGB...).photoken wrote:The problem with that method is that the flares are multi-coloured, even within the same flare, which requires different amounts of darkening to each channel. Darkening all RGB channels at the same time leaves the unwanted flare colour -- that unwanted flare colour is just darker. By applying the Darker tool to individual channels, the unwanted colour can be corrected.Hoogo wrote:I would not do that directly to the graphics.
I would add a medium gray layer and set its layer mode to overlay.
Then you can paint with black, white, any tool and filter without destroying the original picture. It will take some attempts until you have a final version.
In this case, I don't mind altering the original picture -- I'm working on a copy of the picture, anyway.
To apply tools to individual channels, copy the channel into a layer (Tools -> Change Channels) via clipboard, mofify the channel and copy it back.Herbert123 wrote:I agree with Ken on this point: it would be handy to be able to do this.
