exiftool | XMP and PhotoLine - issue with IPTC tags

[Sergey Sorokopudov]

Hi

I'm not sure this is directly related to an issue with PhotoLine, maybe this is an issue with the way how I use all involved programs. Anyway, I'm looking for advices
I'm a Mac user, not sure is it specific for Mac or not.
I'm using in my workflow Aperture for catalog and metadata editing (99.9999% - Description, Title in IPTC). I may have originals (source files) of different types - Raw files, JPEGs, TIFs.

I'm exporting prepared set of files (prepared means files with added metadata) from Aperture and pass them for further layout creation to PhotoLine.
In PhotoLine I'm heavily relying on its great feature Layout->Text to Picture which allows me to extract prepared IPTC from the files and saves a lot of time while preparing further layouts.

That is stil not the issue, this is just background info, for other fellows who will search Internet for keywords PhotoLine Aperture exiftool ... sorry ))
I've attached sample archive to demonstrate what I'm talking about:
* Aperture allows me to export a version with adjustments or original with option to embed IPTC directly into the file. See folders "Export master from Aperture with IPTC", "Export Version from Aperture". In this case there are no issues , PL's Text to Picture correctly recognizes the IPTC tags
* I want to keep only few IPTC tags (lets say Description and Title) and remove all other EXIF info. I do this by exporting master files (JPGs, TIFs) + XMP separately and running 3 commands with exiftool:

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exiftool -all=  -CommonIFD0= -overwrite_original example.jpg
exiftool -tagsfromfile example.xmp -xmp  -overwrite_original example.jpg
exiftool  -XMP:Rating=  -XMP:Subject= -XMP:Label= -overwrite_original example.jpg

After that PL's Text to Picture can't see IPTC tags in the files - returns empty text (and Attributes panes also is showing nothing).
What is confusing me - Mac's Preview is still showing them as IPTC tags, no problems.
All the examples (image, XMP, commands) are in the "Export Master from Aperture with XMP"

If someone is experienced enough in this matter - pls advise what is wrong in my steps and how can I amend my exiftool commands and be able to access IPTC tags in PhotoLine. Or maybe this is a glitch in PhotoLine? (in that case can we have this improvement in next version please)

Here my preference is to stay with exiftool, because actually after extracting from Aperture and before sending files to PhotoLine - I use another tool in case of Raw files for processing.

Thank you!

[Gerhard Huber]

the problem is, that your resulting file has no IPTC or EXIF data. All information is saved in XMP data.
I will add code to the "Layout>Text to Picture" function, that it uses XMP data if there is no IPTC or EXIF. This way your problem should be solved, I think.

Gerhard

[bkh]

As a workaround until PL reads the corresponding xmp tags: why don't you restore the iptc tags as well? The following (longish) command line deletes all metadata except xmp and iptc and doesn't need an xmp sidecar file. (Usually, iptc data contains only information already in the xmp tags.)

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exiftool -all=  -CommonIFD0= -overwrite_original -tagsfromfile @ -xmp  -iptc -XMP:Rating=  -XMP:Subject= -XMP:Label= example.jpg

Alternatively, you can restore the lost IPTC data from the corresponding xmp fields. Sometimes, this is a bit tricky since xmp and iptc labels don't always match:

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exiftool -overwrite_original "-iptc:objectname<xmp:title" example.jpg

Cheers

Burkhard.

[Sergey Sorokopudov]

Thank you Gerhard - I think yes, it will be solved. Happy to test Beta when it will be available.

Thank you Burkhard - I've got the direction for further investigations you are talking about. Unfortunately, the sample code didn't work (delete EXIF, keep IPTC) on my real files (TIF and JPG), but I'll investigate exiftool documentation and be back if I'll be able to solve my case with exiftool command.

Thanks,
Sergey