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Paul wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 10:28 In previous versions, when I zoomed in, PL zoomed in to the active element(s), but in this version it just centres to the view of the document. The 'old' way was much more handy!
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Why don't simply use mouse scroll wheel for zoom to object?
Zoom by keyboard usually used for global document zoom, so it is more logical to preserve document center with it and don't depend of selected layer position. I personally prefer how zoom works in new version.
Anyway it is always better to have setting in Preferences, so user could adjust the things in best way.
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Paul wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 10:28 In previous versions, when I zoomed in, PL zoomed in to the active element(s), but in this version it just centres to the view of the document. The 'old' way was much more handy!
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I agree. I just noticed today - I also prefer to zoom to the active element.
This should probably be a preference setting.

Or base it on the current selection: if nothing is selected, zoom to the center of the current view. If one or more objects are selected: zoom to the center of that selection.
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russellcottrell wrote: Fri 27 Aug 2021 16:59
Herbert123 wrote: Wed 25 Aug 2021 19:35 I also wouldn't mind if the Curves would display a greyscale bar at the bottom and an option to inverse the display by right-mouse clicking that bar. For print work the light values are often positioned to the left since it indicates EXTRA ink. The triangles would indicate the start and end values of the range using the greyscale bar - it becomes functional and easier to control.
Gradient bars on the axes of the curves graph are especially helpful in Lab mode, using the a and b curves.
Yes! That would be a really useful addition. I always have to catch myself when working in LAB mode which colours are affected. A basic rule in GUI design: rely on recognition, rather recollection.
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Yep, color guides for curves in LAB makes sense.
By the way, some apps use background gradient guide in LAB mode, but i am not really sure that it guides in the same way as gradient bars at the edges.
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Lighting effect in Distort Tool is also 8 bit only (same as in all other places) and so produce a lot of banding problems.
Seems 8 bit limit problem is globally linked to multiple tools.
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Herbert123 wrote: Thu 26 Aug 2021 19:47 I do agree however that it is essential that there is a way to stamp 16bit large textures. I don't recall exactly, but I believe the stamp tool retains full 16bit/32bit values?
Yes, it does.

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Herbert123 wrote: Thu 26 Aug 2021 21:30 Open the attached file.

Open the new Animate panel.

Select all frames or a single frame (layers), then Layout--> Document-->Scale, Mode Percentage, 200%, Quick.
Click OK.

Crash!
I will fix that.

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shijan wrote: Thu 26 Aug 2021 23:43
Martin Huber wrote: Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:59
shijan wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 07:54 Preview artifacts when use brush based on custom curve combined with low hardness, angle and roundness. In this example i paint with white color on white background to show artifacts only:
I can't reproduce that, neither on a Retina nor on a non-Retina display. Does this happen with every image and every zoom factor?
It happens only at 100% Zoom and higher Zoom settings. Try to use exact same settings in Brush Editor:
My bad. I didn't read your original post thoroughly enough. I will fix that.

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shijan wrote: Thu 26 Aug 2021 23:44
Oh, now I think I understand: You have a background layer with simple sRGB and atop of that one with gamma 1.0
It also could be Background with Linear gamma and Layer with sRGB gamma. In that situation brush look will change in opposite way. The source of the problem is the same - Transparent pixels ignore color management and gamma transformations.
Transparency isn't part of color management.
shijan wrote: Thu 26 Aug 2021 23:44 Guess problem may be not due transparent pixels itself, but due non color managed checkboard beckground.
(Funny thing - same crazy bug exists in Photoshop, but it is visible there even if work in sRGB gamma :mrgreen: )
This isn't a bug. There are two situation:
  • When you paint with a soft brush on white background, you get color values from 0 to 255. Converting this from linear gamma to sRGB maintains its appearance.
  • When you paint on transparency, you only have the color value 0 with varying transparency. Converting this from linear gamma to sRGB will keep the 0 and the transparency. Rendering the result in sRGB to a background will change its appearance.
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